Earnings Call Transcript Analysis Report #
Hexaware Technologies Limited Q4 CY ‘24 Earnings Call Analysis #
Financial Performance #
- Key Financial Metrics:
- Q4 CY ‘24: 0.2% constant currency growth.
 - Full Year CY ‘24: 13.5% year-over-year (YoY) growth.
 - Reported EBITDA: Up 50% YoY.
 - EPS: Up 65% YoY in Q4; 18% for the full year.
 - Closing Cash Position: Just under INR 2,000 crores (about $230 million).
 - DSO: 65 days (billed and unbilled).
 - OCF to EBITDA: 75% (adjusted EBITDA basis), 81% (reported basis).
 - Full year ETR 25%
 - Dividend Payout: 45% of profit for the full year (INR 8.75 per share).
 
 - Comparison with Previous Periods:
- Q4 growth was modest (0.2%), but full-year growth was strong (13.5%).
 - EBITDA and EPS showed significant YoY improvement.
 - Accelerating YoY growth through 2024.
 - Q1 2024 Sequential Growth of 5%, Q2 and Q3 6% Sequential growth.
 
 - Revised Guidance or Forecasts:
- No guidance provided.
 - Expectation for reported EBITDA in ‘25 to be close to adjusted EBITDA for ‘24 (17.3%).
 
 - Areas of Growth or Decline:
- Growth Leaders (FY ‘24): High Tech and Professional Services (22% YoY), Financial Services (19% YoY).
 - Growth Laggards: Manufacturing and Consumer, Banking (7.6% growth, expected to recover).
 - Geographic Growth: APAC (6.5%, accelerating), Europe, U.S. (strong growth continuing).
 
 
Strategic Initiatives & Business Updates #
- Strategic Announcements:
- No adjusted EBITDA will be reported going forward.
 - Focus on consolidating partnerships with key clients.
 - Active M&A program.
 
 - New Products, Services, or Markets:
- AI-based outsourcing of tech operations.
 - AI solutions for eDiscovery.
 - Legacy modernization using RapidX and GenAI.
 
 - Operational Changes:
- Improving operational efficiency (better pricing, SG&A leverage).
 - Expansion in Tier 2 locations.
 
 - Ongoing/Completed Projects:
- ERP implementation costs through Q1 and Q2 of CY ‘25, then go to zero.
 - Two major client consolidation efforts won, with ramps expected in Q2 and Q3.
 - Two other significant deal opportunities in progress.
 
 
Market & Competitive Landscape #
- Industry Trends:
- “Secular headwinds” in the Manufacturing and Consumer sector.
 - Macros have trended “marginally negative” recently.
 - Uncertainty in the market.
 
 - Competitive Positioning:
- Among the top performers in the industry in terms of YoY growth.
 - Attrition is “now, we think, the lowest or among the lowest in the industry at 10.8%.”
 - Claimed to have the best DSO in the Industry.
 - Preferred partner for client consolidation efforts.
 
 - Market Challenges/Opportunities:
- Challenge: Uncertainty in client budgets.
 - Opportunity: Client consolidation efforts.
 
 - Market Share/Positioning:
- Recognised in brand finance, top 25 most IT brands globally.
 - Ranked first in general satisfaction across a number of different countries.
 
 
Risk Factors & Challenges #
- Concerns/Challenges Acknowledged:
- “Macros have trended marginally negative” recently.
 - Softness in Manufacturing and Consumer.
 - Banking growth was lower than expected.
 
 - Regulatory Issues:
- Potential impacts of U.S. immigration policies.
 
 - Operational Constraints:
- Seasonality: Q1 and Q4 are typically low-growth quarters.
 - Q3 is a wage hike quarter.
 
 - Market Uncertainties:
- Uncertainty in the broader market environment.
 
 
Forward-Looking Statements #
- Outlook and Projections:
- Expect ‘25 performance to be “resilient”.
 - Expect APAC growth to accelerate, Europe to improve, and U.S. to continue performing well.
 - Banking growth is expected to recover “very smartly” in a couple of quarters.
 - Travel and Transport will grow slightly above company average
 
 - Commitments/Targets:
- Goal to achieve reported EBITDA margins similar to ‘24 adjusted margins (around 17.3%).
 - “Double-digit [growth] is like a solid baseline.”
 
 - Planned Investments/Priorities:
- Active pursuit of M&A opportunities.
 
 - Sentiment about Future Performance:
- Generally confident.
 - Expect ‘25 Y-on-Y performance will see second half perform better than first half
 
 
Q&A Insights #
- Most Pressing Analyst Questions:
- Clarification on organic vs. inorganic growth.
 - Details on the demand environment and budgeting cycles.
 - Capital allocation plans, including M&A strategy.
 - Impact of U.S. policies (immigration, “Made in America”).
 - Plans for the bond.
 - Margin drivers and expectations.
 
 - Management’s Responses to Challenging Questions:
- Provided specific numbers on inorganic growth impact.
 - Acknowledged market uncertainty.
 - Confirmed an active M&A program.
 - Downplayed the impact of potential U.S. policy changes.
 - Provided a breakdown of margin improvement drivers.
 
 - New Information Revealed:
- 2% of YoY growth for Q4 was due to acquisition impact.
 - Subcontractor costs are around 17% of revenues.
 - Pass-through revenue is sub-$10 million per quarter.
 
 
Management Tone & Sentiment #
- Overall Tone: Confident and cautiously optimistic.
 - Changes in Language: More straightforward in presenting only reported numbers.
 - Areas of Confidence: Strong financial performance, client relationships, operational efficiency, and M&A pipeline.
 - Areas of Concern: Acknowledged recent market uncertainties.
 
Key Takeaways #
- Strong 2024 Performance, but No Guidance: Solid growth and improved profitability in 2024, but no specific financial guidance for 2025.
 - Resilient Outlook: Expects 2025 performance to be resilient, driven by existing client wins and potential new deals.
 - Focus on Consolidation and Efficiency: Benefiting from client consolidation efforts and improving operational efficiency.
 - Active M&A: Actively pursuing M&A opportunities.
 - Transparency Commitment: The shift to reporting only reported EBITDA signals a commitment to greater transparency.
 - One-off ERP implementation costs These costs are to continue to negatively impact profitability until Q3 2025.