Sandhar Technologies Limited - Feb 2025 Earnings Call Transcript Analysis

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Earnings Call Transcript Analysis Report #

Financial Performance #

Key Financial Metrics #

Total Income Growth (Consolidated) #

  • Q3 FY25: 9.27% YoY.
  • 9M FY25: 10.34% YoY.

EBITDA (Consolidated) #

  • 9M FY25: Margin at 10.1%, an improvement from 9.6% in 9M FY24 (a 50 basis points improvement).
  • EBITDA margin projection for FY25: ~10.45%.

Joint Ventures (Collective) #

  • Total Income (presumably 9M FY25): 270 crores.
  • Average EBITDA margin: 12.5%.
  • All JVs PAT positive in Q3 and 9M FY25.

Debt #

  • Net Debt: 673 crores.
  • Gross Debt: 708 crores (Standalone: 284 cr, Indian Subsidiaries: 100 cr, Overseas Subsidiaries: 324 cr). Cash balance: 35 crores (India level).
  • JV Debt: ~8.5 crores (not included in consolidated debt).

CAPEX #

  • 9M FY25: ~173 crores.

Overseas Subsidiaries Losses #

  • EBIT Level Loss (9M FY25): 17.35 crores.
  • EBIT Level Loss (Q3 FY25): 10.78 crores (consolidated impact).

Comparison with Previous Periods #

  • Outperformed peers in Q3 FY25 revenue growth.
  • EBITDA margin improved by 50 bps in 9M FY25 YoY.
  • Two-wheeler and OHV segments outperformed industry growth in 9M FY25; four-wheeler segment saw a decline for Sandhar.

Revised Guidance or Forecasts #

Revenue FY25 #

  • Projecting around 4000 crores.

Revenue FY26 #

  • Target of 4,500 crores remains achievable.

EBITDA Margin FY25 #

  • Target of ~10.45% (50 bps improvement YoY).

EBITDA Margin FY26 #

  • Target of 10.50% to 10.95% (another 50 bps improvement from FY25).

Debt Reduction #

  • Expectation of ~100 crores repayment in the next financial year (FY26) from generated cash flows.

Areas of Growth or Decline #

Growth #

  • Two-wheeler segment (Sandhar +17.58% vs industry +13% in 9M).
  • OHV segment (Sandhar +6.9% vs industry +5.3% in 9M).
  • Joint Ventures.
  • EV battery chargers.
  • Sheet metal business showing good traction.

Decline #

  • Four-wheeler segment (for Sandhar, while industry grew 2.72% in 9M).
  • Overseas business (sustained losses).

Strategic Initiatives & Business Updates #

Major Strategic Announcements #

  • Focus on deleveraging the balance sheet and generating free cash flows.
  • Continued diversification of product portfolio, expanding customer base, and increasing content per vehicle.
  • Emphasis on ESG and Sustainable Development Goals (SGD) to attain carbon neutrality.

New Products, Services, or Markets Discussed #

EVs #

  • Commercial production of battery chargers has started with positive market response and increasing customer base.

Smart Locks #

  • Production and supplies started to “two of the biggest names.” Traction building with other customers, with volumes expected to pick up.

Hyundai Mirrors #

  • Project delayed by Hyundai; products currently under testing. SOPs expected around July/August.

Significant Operational Changes #

  • All joint ventures are PAT positive, driven by “focused cost control, localization efforts, enhanced business synergies.”
  • Consolidating operations to improve ROCE and ROI.

Ongoing or Completed Projects #

Pune Expansion (Cabins, Fabrication, Die Casting) #

  • Expected to commence commercial production by end of March 2025.

New Lines (General) #

  • Lines ready, but volumes expected in Q1 FY26 due to customer-side testing delays.

Sheet Metal #

  • Four new manufacturing facilities set up in the last 3-4 years. Capacity utilization at 80-85%. Routine CAPEX for balancing equipment, no major inorganic CAPEX expected.

Romanian Plant #

  • Stabilized after delays due to Ukraine war; expect much larger manufacturing capability consumption in the coming year (FY26).

Market & Competitive Landscape #

India Macro #

  • Projected FY25 growth revised down to 6.4% due to weaker manufacturing and slower corporate investments. RBI also lowered forecast.

Auto Segments (9M YoY) #

  • Two-wheeler industry grew 13%, Four-wheeler +2.72%, OHV +5.3%.

EV Market #

  • Some slowdown observed, but Sandhar sees traction due to localized solutions. Uncertainty remains with alternatives like hydrogen being explored by some OEMs (e.g., BMW).

Export Market (Europe) #

  • Demand is weak, impacting overseas business. Green shoots are reportedly being seen.

Competitive Positioning Statements #

  • Sandhar outperformed industry growth in the two-wheeler (17.58% vs 13%) and OHV (6.9% vs 5.3%) segments in 9M FY25.
  • Confident in sustaining and growing momentum despite challenging conditions.
  • Not facing a shortage of orders despite industry slowdown.

Market Challenges or Opportunities Mentioned #

Challenges #

  • Weaker overall economic growth in India, slowdown in Europe, potential US tariffs, EV market uncertainties.

Opportunities #

  • “China Plus One” strategy benefiting Indian exporters. Increasing content per vehicle, product diversification, EV components, smart locks.

Comments about Market Share or Positioning #

  • Gaining market share in exports despite overall weak demand in Europe.
  • Increasing wallet share with existing customers through new components.

Risk Factors & Challenges #

Concerns or Challenges Acknowledged by Management #

Macroeconomic Headwinds (India) #

  • Slower GDP growth, weaker manufacturing, slower corporate investments, inflation, anemic capital flows, record trade gap.

Overseas Business Performance #

  • Operations in Europe sustained losses due to low demand and slowdown.

Four-Wheeler Segment Decline #

  • Sandhar experienced a decline in this segment despite modest industry growth.

EV Market Uncertainty #

  • While seeing traction, the broader EV adoption path and competition from other technologies (e.g., hydrogen) pose a question mark.