Earnings Call Transcript Analysis Report #
Financial Performance #
Key Financial Metrics: #
- Consolidated 9M FY25 Revenue: INR 2,138 crores (up 11% YoY).
 - Standalone 9M FY25 Revenue: INR 1,835 crores.
 - Consolidated 9M FY25 EBITDA: INR 289 crores (up 11% YoY).
 - Standalone 9M FY25 EBITDA: INR 264 crores.
 - Consolidated 9M FY25 PAT: INR 196 crores (up 13% YoY), 9.2% margin.
 - Standalone 9M FY25 PAT: INR 172 crores.
 - Net Cash Position (Dec 2024): INR 262 crores (excluding HAM entity debt).
 - Asset-Light Net Cash: INR 379 Crores.
 - Gross Cash Position: INR 659 Crores.
 - ROCE: ~18%.
 - ROE: 14.5%.
 - Order Book: Exceeding INR 14,200.
 
Comparison with Previous Periods: #
- Consolidated revenue grew over 11% year-over-year.
 - Consolidated EBITDA grew by around 11% year-over-year.
 - Consolidated PAT grew at over 13% year-over-year.
 - Like-to-like basis (excluding divested European entities) consolidated EBITDA for 9M grew by 14% YoY and PAT grew by 17% YoY.
 
Revised Guidance/Forecasts: #
- Management reiterated their confidence in sustaining revenue and profit expansion.
 - Maintain healthy EBITDA margins, aligned with medium term outlook of 13%-15%.
 - Management maintain 15-20% revenue growth over the medium term (3-5 Years).
 
Areas of Growth/Decline: #
- Growth in revenue, EBITDA, and PAT.
 - International business contributed 48% of 9M revenues.
 - O&M business contributes 19% of nine months revenue and 42% of the order book.
 
Strategic Initiatives & Business Updates #
Major Strategic Announcements: #
- Long-term rating upgrade to Ind AA- with a ‘Stable’ outlook by India Rating and Research (Fitch Group).
 - Secured four significant orders:
- INR 3,251 crores for 200 MLD Al Haer Independent Sewage Treatment Plant in Riyadh, KSA (Wabag’s share ~INR 1,725 crores).
 - INR 121 crores for 7-year O&M of BAPCO Refining Industrial Wastewater Treatment Plant in Bahrain.
 - INR 700 crores for design, build, and operate order in Zambia.
 - INR 145 crores order from Chennai Petroleum Corporation Limited.
 
 - Centenary celebration with events in Vienna, Riyadh, Delhi, and Chennai.
 
New Products/Services/Markets: #
- Focus on desalination, water re-use, and effluent treatment projects.
 - Expanding presence in emerging markets: Middle East, Africa, Indian sub-continent, Southeast Asia, and CIS countries.
 - Blue Seed initiative to support startups.
 
Operational Changes: #
- Divested 3 European subsidiaries in the last 2 years to focus on emerging markets.
 
Ongoing/Completed Projects: #
- 400 MLD Perur Desalination Project in Chennai is progressing well.
 - Pagla Project in Bangladesh is getting back on track after initial disruptions.
 
Market & Competitive Landscape #
Industry Trends: #
- Focus on Jal Jeevan Mission extension until FY28, but Wabag not directly involved in most projects.
 - Emphasis on cleaning up riverfronts (e.g., Yamuna) presents significant opportunities.
 - Strong focus on water sector growth in emerging markets.
 
Competitive Positioning: #
- Positioned as a global leader in advanced water technology.
 
Market Challenges/Opportunities: #
- Significant opportunities in emerging markets due to infrastructure development.
 - Opportunities in cleaning up riverfronts in India. *Less opportunities in developed countries.
 
Market Share/Positioning: #
- Reinforces leadership position in the Middle East region.
 
Risk Factors & Challenges #
Concerns/Challenges: #
- Initial disruptions in the Pagla Project in Bangladesh due to geopolitical situations.
 
Market Uncertainties: #
- Retendering of a Saudi Arabia project due to client-related decisions.
 
Forward-Looking Statements #
Outlook/Projections: #
- Expect more orders in the coming months.
 - Confident in ability to sustain revenue and profit expansion.
 - Expect the fourth quarter to be the “bumper quarter”.
 
Commitments/Targets: #
- Maintain net cash positive position.
 - Maintain 13%-15% window of EBITDA Margins.
 
Planned Investments/Priorities: #
- Continue focus on emerging markets and advanced technology projects.
 - Enhancing presence in Middle East, Africa, Indian sub-continent, Southeast Asia, and CIS countries.
 
Sentiment: #
- Overall positive and confident sentiment about future performance.
 
Q&A Insights #
Most Pressing Questions: #
- Impact of Jal Jeevan Mission extension.
 - Execution timelines for Chennai and Bangladesh projects.
 - Reasons for margin fluctuations.
 - Impact of U.S. aid stoppage on the Bangladesh project.
 - Status of a cancelled Saudi Arabia order.
 - Order pipeline and inflow guidance.
 - Dividend policy.
 - Competitors achieving higher EBITDA margins.
 
Management Responses: #
- Provided clear explanations on project progress and timelines.
 - Reiterated commitment to medium-term financial outlook.
 - Addressed concerns about Bangladesh project and Saudi Arabia tender.
 - Explained dividend policy in relation to investment in projects.
 - Acknowledged competitors’ higher margins but focused on their own strategy.
 
Indirect Answers: #
- Declined to provide specific order inflow guidance for FY26.
 - Did not provide IRR targets on order.
 - The exact payment terms for the Saudi Arabia project were directed to be taken offline.
 - Details regarding the differences in the retendered Saudi Arabia project were not provided.
 
New Information: #
- Expectation of securing INR 2,000-2,500 crores worth of projects in the next 2-3 months.
 - Confirmation that the re-tender for the Saudi Arabia project is underway.
 - Bid-to-win ratio is generally 30% to 40%.
 - Confirmed the 100 cities plan for extending the HAM Model.
 
Management Tone & Sentiment #
Overall Tone: #
- Confident and optimistic.
 
Areas of Confidence/Concern: #
- Strong confidence in order book, pipeline visibility, and ability to grow.
 - Confidence in managing project risks and execution.
 - No major areas of concern expressed, but acknowledged potential for project delays.
 - Mentioned that they are celebrating 100 years.
 
Summary of Most Important Takeaways #
- Strong Financial and Operational Performance: Wabag demonstrated solid financial growth in 9M FY25, with increases in revenue, EBITDA, and PAT. The company maintains a strong order book and net cash position.
 - Strategic Focus: The company is strategically focused on emerging markets, advanced technology projects (desalination, water re-use), and O&M contracts.
 - Positive Outlook: Management is confident about future growth, citing a robust order pipeline and opportunities in key markets.
 - Rating Upgrade: The credit rating upgrade to AA- is a significant positive, enhancing the company’s market perception and business opportunities.
 - Anniversary: The year marks the 100th anniversary.